Syria and Lebanon (Lonely Planet Multi Country Guide)
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Average customer review:Product Details
- Amazon Sales Rank: #7713 in Books
- Published on: 2008-07-01
- Original language: English
- Number of items: 1
- Binding: Paperback
- 436 pages
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Synopsis
Complemented by easy-to use, reliable maps, helpful recommendations, authoritative background information, and up-to-date coverage of things to see and do, these popular travel guides cover in detail countries, regions, and cities around the world for travelers of every budget, along with extensive itineraries, maps with cross-referencing to the te
Customer Reviews
Not good enough
This edition printed July 2008 is lacking in so many respects that I was left very frustrated. For example departure tax in Syria by land border is SYR£500 and by air SYR£1500, not the stated SYR£200 in the book. A lot of the maps were inaccurate. Adding 20% to most prices not the usual 10% seemed to be the order of the day. This guide seems too concerned in plugging 'the authors choice' (any kick backs involved...?) or showing pictures of people that could be 'nearly like us' with a personal profile and other nonsense. Having bought and used LP books for over 10 years, this is a poor effort and hugely dissapointing. It lacks the impartiality of other guides and the editorial stance seems to have shifted considerably since the BBC Worldwide buy out (no coincidence eh?). I met several people who had the same 2008 edition and they were of the same if not similar opinion. This book is aimed at time-poor-cash-rich travellers rather than backpacker budget types (for example the entry in Homs the budget hotel options start very cheaply approx US$8, yet the 'authors choice' is approx US$100) even though it attempts to address the needs of both it does it badly. Bus stations are mentioned that either no longer exist or services reportedly arriving/departing no longer exist. While I accept that things are subject to change to be so out of date 2 months after publication is a bit much. Where the book is actually really good is in its descriptions of sites and the LP way of packing a lot of historical information into a few pages concisley remains. But this is not going to stop me switching to Rough Guide because I reckon LP have lost their way if not the plot...
Useful - but limited
This guide was very useful to me while in the country - to tell me a bit about what I was looking at, allow me to plan along the way etc. The maps were generally pretty accurate (except for the location of the post office in Hama - it must simply have moved location, 'cause they were way out!)
However, some of the opinions and judgements were highly subjective. This impression was further reinforced when one of the authors announced on the Thorntree forum that she now prefered Homs to Hama - despite a strong feeling the other way being expressed in the current edition. Granted, cities change - but this example does highlight the necessity of going by your own judgement and feeling as much as anything else (I personally love Hama). Of course this is true of any guidebook, but is particularly the case with this one, as I am unimpressed by the bit about the authors in the front. They both seem well travelled and at least have a fondness for Lebanon (Syria doens't get a specific mention, being lumped with the rest of the countries under "middle east"!) but they live in UAE. It seems a great shame that someone with more experience of living in the two countries, and more fondness for Syria, couldn't have written the guide.
This leads to the final criticism - the lumping together of two sometimes very different countries, when each easily warrants its own guidebook.
I would very much like to see an LP guide to Syria, written by someone who has both travelled and lived there. Until then, this guide is helpful but more flawed than even the average travel guide.
Syria and Lebanon guide: some clarification
A post from the authors of the last edition of 'Syria and Lebanon' in response to the review above. We're currently completing the manuscript for the new edition, so the out-of-date content (well over 4-6 years old now!) you've reviewed is being updated (the reason I give our guide 4/5!)
We're love Syria, as much as we love Lebanon. We've travelled to both countries myriad times over a decade. However, we weren't commissioned to write Syria for the edition you reviewed. Our commission was to write Lebanon, so the views on Homs/Hama weren't ours, but those of author Andrew Humphreys. Lonely Planet briefs authors to make a connection to the place they're writing about, hence that tendency toward Lebanon you detect in Terry's bio.
Hama is beautiful - love the waterwheels, riverbank, splendid stone architecture, narrow lanes of its tiny 'old town', the sweets! - however, as a woman I was distinctly uncomfortable on the last visit in a way I've never been in Syria before and I'd advise women travelling there to be cautious. In Homs we found the people considerably warmer and friendlier, loved the renovated souqs and old buildings, the coffee shops, the vibrant youth culture, and I, personally, found it to be more female-friendly.
The content of guidebooks is always going to be subjective because they're an expression of the authors' experiences of destinations. As much as authors talk to locals, expats and travellers during research, and try to balance out any negative/positive experiences of their own with those of others, we can ultimately only write about things in the way we experience them. Travellers experiences of places are inevitably different and varied, so guidebooks will rarely please everyone. Lonely Planet requires its authors to be opinionated, authoritative and to "tell it like it is", because they believe these things make their guidebooks better and are what readers want.
Guidebooks written by authors who live in-country are going to be different to authors whose experience is based on repeat trips to the destination over many years (as ours and Andrew's is). Some guidebook publishers lean toward commissioning resident authors because they can provide a depth of experience, insider knowledge, and deep understanding of culture that a repeat visitor perhaps can't (and because it's cheaper - they don't have to include author airfares in their fee budgets!) - although even Lonely Planet commissions authors to write titles on destinations they've never been before. The reasons might be: they want some 'fresh eyes', they value the writer's ability, or simply because they couldn't find a good enough resident author available at the time they were commissioning. If a travel writer is good at what they do, then they should have solid research skills, and should be able to hit the ground running and very quickly learn everything they need to adequately update the guide. After all, this is what we do.
Totally agree with you the Syria and Lebanon guides should never have been combined and do warrant their own guides (for many reasons) and we strongly argued this - it's something that's embarrassed us and that we've had to explain to our Syrian and Lebanese friends many times on our myriad trips there over the years since the guide was published. There are obviously business imperatives - editors want to produce profitable titles - and those won out. We agree with you, it's a shame.
Lara Dunston (& Terry Carter)



