Live 1973 - 2007 (Audio CDs and NTSC format DVD)
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Average customer review:Track Listing
Disc 1:
- Watcher Of The Skies
- Get 'Em Out By Friday
- Return Of The Giant Hogweed, The
- Musical Box, The
- Knife, The
- Back In NYC
- Fly On A Windshield (1)
- Broadway Melody Of 1974
- Anyway
- Chamber Of 32 Doors, The
Disc 2:
- Watcher Of The Skies
- Get 'Em Out By Friday
- Return Of The Giant Hogweed, The
- Musical Box, The
- Knife, The
- Back In NYC
- Fly On A Windshield
- Broadway Melody Of 1974
- Anyway
- Chamber Of 32 Doors, The
Disc 3:
- Squonk
- Carpet Crawlers
- Robbery Assault And Battery
- Afterglow
- Firth Of Fifth (1)
- I Know What I Like
- Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, The
- Musical Box, The
Disc 4:
- Supper's Ready
- Cinema Show, The
- Dance On A Volcano
- Los Endos
Disc 5:
- Squonk
- Carpet Crawlers
- Robbery Assault And Battery
- Afterglow
- Firth Or Fifth
- I Know What I Like
- Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, The
- Musical Box, The
- Supper's Ready
- Cinema Show, The
- Dance On A Volcano
- Los Endos
Disc 6:
- Turn It On Again
- Dodo
- Abacab
- Behind The Lines
- Duchess
- Me And Sarah Jane
- Follow You Follow Me
Disc 7:
- Misunderstanding
- In The Cage/The Cinema Show/Slippermen
- Afterglow
- One For The Vine
- Fountain Of Salmacis, The
- It/Watcher Of The Skies
Disc 8:
- Land Of Confusion
- No Son Of Mine
- Driving The Last Spike
- Lamb Lies Down On Broadway/I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)/The Muscial Box/Firth Of Fifth/Danc
- Throwing It All Away
- Fading Lights
- Jesus He Knows Me
- Home By The Sea/Second Home By The Sea
Disc 9:
- Hold On My Heart
- Domino/In The Glow Of The Night/The Last Domino
- Drum Duet
- I Can't Dance
- Tonight Tonight Tonight
- Invisible Touch
- Turn It On Again
- Mama
- That's All
- In Too Deep
Disc 10:
- Watcher Of The Skies (1)
- Dancing With The Moonlit Knight
- Cinema Show, The
- I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)
- Firth Of Fifth
- Musical Box, The
- More Fool Me
- Battle Of Epping Forest, The
- Supper's Ready
Disc 11:
- Dancing With The Moonlit Knight
- Cinema Show, The
- I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)
- Firth Of Fifth
- More Fool Me
- Battle Of Epping Forest, The
- Supper's Ready
Product Details
- Amazon Sales Rank: #3120 in Music
- Released on: 2009-09-21
- Number of discs: 11
- Format: Box set
- Dimensions: 2.16 pounds
Editorial Reviews
CD Description
Genesis Live 1973 – 2007 is a sumptuously presented box-set that includes:
Genesis Live, the band’s first Top Ten album in the UK, recorded in Leicester and Manchester and issued in 1973, and featuring the classic line-up of Tony Banks (keyboards), Phil Collins (drums, vocals), Peter Gabriel (vocals, flute), Steve Hackett (guitars) and Mike Rutherford (bass, guitars). Genesis Live, for this box-set release, has been extended to feature five bonus tracks recorded at The Shrine Auditorium, Los Angeles on 24 January 1975 and the full album is also presented in 5.1 for the first time.
The double set Seconds Out, a Top 5 entry in 1977 that documented the group’s Paris dates as a quartet with Collins on lead vocals following Gabriel’s departure in 1975. The tour featured touring drummers Bill Bruford and Chester Thompson. Exclusively to this box-set, Seconds Out is presented in stereo and 5.1 versions.
Three Sides Live, a number two album in the UK in 1982, mostly showcasing the Banks-Collins-Rutherford incarnation augmented by Thompson and guitarist Daryl Stuermer.
The Way We Walk, finally sees these two live albums re-sequenced as per the original show’s set list. Originally released separately and entitled Vol I: The Shorts, which made the Top 3 in Britain in 1992, and Vol 2: The Longs, this was the band’s sixth number one album, and their only concert recording to top the charts in 1993.
Genesis Live 1973 – 2007 has been designed to incorporate space for the most recent live Genesis release; the 2-CD set Live Over Europe 2007. All albums feature brand new stereo mixes created by Tony Banks, Nick Davis and Mike Rutherford, whilst Genesis Live, Seconds Out and Live At The Rainbow 1973 all feature 5.1 Dolby Digital Surround Sound versions.
Customer Reviews
More Fool Me
OK, after the sound and fury about what might have been, what is the box actually like?
Well, first off, I found it wouldn't play in one of my stereos - one that always has problems with cheap CD-Rs - never usually with studio released CDs though. Hmmm...
The packaging and box are good. There's a nice essay about the band live through the years, accompanied by broad brush comments from all but Peter Gabriel. Album graphics have been spruced up and are much more vivid than before. This particularly benefits Genesis Live, with the front cover coming alive - as much as any distant balcony shot of 3 blokes sitting down, their heads buried in their instruments while another bloke wanders around the stage with a red cardboard beak on can be said to come alive, that is.
Seconds Out is singled out for special treatment, with a gorgeous cardboard sleeve and mini booklet with the original close up shots that accompanied the lp. There's also a short essay on how fabulous, powerful, brilliant and exciting Al Murray finds the album. Thanks Al.
The sound quality improves on each disc largely in proportion with its age. So while The Way We Walk is little different to its original release quality, Genesis Live is far clearer and less echoey, with the faster passages on The Musical Box and The Knife sounding more alive and exciting. The extras tracks on Genesis Live are - mystifyingly - 5 out-of-sequence Lamb songs from concerts recorded two years later - all of which are already available on the Archive box set. The superb BBC and Belgian TV recordings from 1972 - as well as the Supper's Ready recorded at the same gigs - would have been far more appropriate - both to the musical era, as well as this listener's perception of value and rarity.
Aside from sound quality improvements and 5:1 mixes of 3 of the 5 albums, the main bonus of this set is the band's 1973 Rainbow gig. Five of the seven tracks have already been released - again on the Archive box set. The disc does however contain my highlight of this set - a Peter Gabriel era Cinema Show. Gabriel seems to have mellowed since the Archive release and not only has he not felt the need to re-record his vocals - as he did on much of the Archive Lamb - he has also allowed his original 1973 Supper's Ready vocal track to be reinstated it seems. Both are superb performances, although comparing each Rainbow track to other sources, something has definitely been lost in the sound production - the tracks sound a little sanitised and flat, lacking the sparkle, dazzle and atmosphere of the unofficial recordings of this gig. All stage announcements have been dropped, which is a shame - I personally loved Phil's awkward explanation that he was wearing a jacket to look less like a painter prior to `More Fool Me'.
Other observations: Dancing with the Moonlit Knight is an extended version - longer than both unofficial and Archive versions; Watcher of the Skies is inexplicably only present on the DVD of the Rainbow concert - despite the band bemoaning the quality of the Genesis Live version in the booklet; Seconds Out and Three Sides Live have not been fleshed out with other 1976-80 material. Thus no Entangled, Burning Rope, Deep in the Motherlode, Ripples, Fountain of Salmacis, Your Own Special Way, Inside and Out, White Mountain, Eleventh Earl of Mar, In That Quiet Earth, One for the Vine, Fly on a Windshield, All in a Mouse's Night or The Knife, to name a few (so much for the patronising comment in the accompanying booklet that 'The completists can be happy').
There is some logic in not messing with the original albums too much - it'd be hard to include Fly on a Windshield on Seconds Out for instance, without wanting to insert it after a 1976 Lamb Lies Down - which would mean losing the glorious 1977 segue into The Musical Box. Some of the missing late 70s tracks are on Archive II, it's true, but it seems a shame that a box set that notionally gathers together live Genesis should omit, er, live Genesis. Perhaps the obvious step would have been to give us a full late 70s concert - there are plenty of superb recordings available. That way, we could have all the extra tracks from those tours in one place - akin to augmenting Genesis Live with Live at the Rainbow.
Not the most imaginative compilation then. It's a lot of money to ask for 2 new tracks, the odd new vocal, some 5:1 mixes and a sonic brush-up on discs that were previously marketed as 'definitive' editions. Just rest assured that if the present fairy does send it your way, the music is outstanding.
A failiure of the imganition...
It is, of course, entirely fair that musicians should follow their muses at the expense of fans' expectations. Resort to giving 'em what they want and the artistic spirit stultifies in a welter of focus groups. But when the artifact in question is a premium-priced box set of Genesis live albums (never the place for the casual fan to dip their toes in give-or-take a James Brown) it might be, for once, time to find out what would be happily acceptable to people who have already bought the albums thrice already (vinyl/hissy rushed CDs/remastered CDs). It appears that for this project the focus groups must have been cancelled after a nasty rail strike or swine flu scare...
After the exemplary reissue of the Gabriel era studio material - complete with hours of live TV footage, unreleased material etc - this seems to have disappointed the hardcore fans. Perhaps the best way to explain why is to list the obvious shortcomings:
Back in the day live albums were rarely able to contain whole concerts due to the time-limitations of vinyl. Now a double CD contains long enough for pretty much everyone bar Springsteen or the Grateful Dead to document the 'Go to Whoah' experience, complete with asides, links and the originally sequenced setlist.
They seem to have borne this kind of detail in mind with a chronologically resequenced 1992 live set and a formerly piecemeal 1973 Gabriel-era show. Elsewhere, though, the project reeks of missed opportunities. Their 1972 'Genesis Live' set exists as a complete show, but has not been fleshed out here. 1977's Seconds Out and 1982's Three Sides Live remain partial, non-chronological highlights of full shows, which are presumably gathering dust somewhere.
Only five tracks in total make their official debut on this box set. No filmed footage from the vaults is included either, unlike preceding studio box sets. Virgin are planning a box of previous live DVDs, hence, I guess the absence here. But at £80+ for this set, it all feels (like the separate mono and stereo Beatles remaster boxes) a little mean-spirited.
In purely musical terms there is much here to delight, and I am sure that the remastered material will sparkle (I am commenting pre-release here with a notional three stars). Fans have long talked about the Genesis live experience in quasi-religious terms. Perhaps the best advice for those curious about all that fuss is to sample the superlative 1977 live set Seconds Out, which merges the pomp of the Collins-era with the whimsy of reworked Gabriel material, to delightful effect. Even the NME loved it - and at the height of punk too ...
In the era of 'help yourself' file sharing and downloading, the music industry knows that ticket sales and 'luxury artifacts' are two of its last remaining cash cows. Alas, it's Genesis zealots and not the archives that are being milked on this occasion.
Sorry Genesis - But this time I can't defend you
I ordered this box with as much excitement and anticipation as I had with the studio box sets. Since then I have discovered that Three Sides Live and The Way We Walk are only stereo versions only (not 5.1) They are not being released on hybrid SACD. The extra live material has already been heard on the previous archive box sets, even though there must be countless other live recordings available.
I was almost appeased when it was announced that a Live DVD box would be available including 3 Sides Live in 5.1 and The Mama Tour. However, I have found out since that The Way We Walk and The Invisible Touch Tour DVDs will be exactly the same as those currently available. Three Sides Live will be cut in the original VHS format with fake 5.1 surround in places as the original tapes are lost (including the In The Cage medley).
This truly is a poor effort. I have cancelled my order.
I am a Genesis fan but I'm not stupid.



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